My father and brother have each gone off meds thinking they were cured and my dad got arrested and my brother hospitalized. He sounds like a sociopath and in dire need of some professional help. No wonder “bipolar” is a lifetime illness. I have just stayed on it for I feel no worse for it and it may be needed now. How to drop them both? I cycle up to 4 times a day. If so an elimination diet may help, but I know how hard it can be to stick to a specific diet while taking Seroquel. People ask me if they can treat their bipolar disorder without medication all the time. The truth is you have the power to choose what thoughts you focus on and you are responsible for how you feel, and you don’t need a pill or outside help to do it. I have already shared a brief summary of what has been helping me, but I would like to share a few other resources, links, and ideas that could potentially help someone. I have used this product successfully for many years. Just sharing what I learnt that really helped me, it’s not for any other reason. I never would have imagined feeling so normal and as good as I feel most of the time now. Socially: have a very supportive, loving relationship with my partner and avoid negative/draining people It’s just frustrating to be one of the few who cannot tolerate the meds… and what is very low for many, can be really too high for a few… to then be accused of medication non-compliance… just is too much. Emotion regulation and distress tolerance are a couple of topics in the Dialectical Behavior Therapy program that has been helpful. I just wanted to let you know that I was diagnosed in 1997 with Bi-polar 1 and was medicated for 7 years with debilitating side effects. How To Treat Bipolar Disorder Naturally Without Drugs – The Effective Tips Forever. I have so much difficulty with it becuase the ruminations wont stop but I keep on doing it. The psychiatrist I was seeing decided to give me Trileptol, which was a very, very harmful drug for me. Wishing you well. Staying awake late is dangerous. Your son needs you Strong take it one day at a time organize yourself by giving at least one hour or two to make phone calls search on the internet you are doing right now by researching how to help him places for low income just pick up the phone and call don’t get discouraged, when they can help go to the next number and call again everyday you love your son I know I can hear it with the way you express yourself, start by helping your self too, go to alanon group meetings find one near you there is always someone in your same situation you are not alone. Would love to know how I can get off my meds. I am not here to bash anyone but I have herd people say they have lost memory, hard time hearing and there thought process has slowed way down. Regular dr, Psychiatrist and pain management clinic. Thank you all for any help or information you can give a lonely heartbroken wife who really doesnt want a divorce. R = Revitalizing. Don’t eat processed food. after that triumph, i was finally ready to heal my gut once and for all. It’s angry at us, it figured out we’re bad/evil/unjust, make it take its meds and shut it up! Julie Cochrane … with regard to litium I have 2 friends who had to have kidney surgery after being on lithium for over 1 dozen years. Doesn’t sound like your Dr. explained it well but bipolar is already a worse diagnosis (and includes a lot of not so good things). I see no coincidence that the people who refuse to take meds are the ones most offended by everything. Many communities that had reputations for “curative waters” had or have high levels of lithium naturally in their well water or springs. So the meds affect the brain and the mind. I also have been married to a supportive husband for 34 years who has hope for me during the times I could not believe it for myself. Not completing all projects does not make it an unsuccessful story. I always refused medication because my manic cycles allow me to do incredible things, like solving complex problem in a month while an average PHD student takes 3 years. Not everyone’s system tolerates as well as someone else’s and some of us have to go at life a wee bit harder than others and have to survive this life, a lot harder. Tell a holocaust survivor who suffers from ptsd that they weren’t strong enough to handle the autrocities of concentration camp because of their Jewish genes and see how far you get with that theory. Just some food for thought. It seems like Chris is lashing out. That was 2 years ago. News Flash!!!! If you are interested I may help you with some basic ideas how to start. Couldn’t have said it better myself. So I think the real answer is you can try alternatives to pharmaceutical treatment, might help some but most likely not the cure. There are things you can do to help maintain stability and remain healthy in your search for the optimum treatment plan. Bipolar — and any mental illness or chronic debilitating illness — is cruel. Are you sure it isn’t age-appropriate behavior? Anyways I realized that whether this was all delusional or real, I was starting to see how powerful my mind was, and how thoughts literally create your reality. She went to er was admitted treated for 17 days and symptoms were the same if not worse before she was admitted. She has currently gotten a restraining order for the latest thing. Seriously, what have you got to lose?). Somebody with DID could easily switch to an alter that doesn’t have these things, because some alters actually are depressed and display all the symptoms of depression including suicidal thoughts. They usually do not seek help until everyday life becomes too hard to manage. How can a physical thing like meds change something abstract and specific like thinking? I currently take 600mg of Seroquel XR at night as well as 700mg of Epilim (sodium valproate) in the morning and again at night. Since then, working in psychiatric medical research and alongside my amazing therapist, has taught me to recognise the onset of a depressive or manic episode and to manage it before it gets too bad to handle. I have a 31 year old daughter too , and we are struggling with the medications’ side effects Good luck to you Chris. I sounds like your son may be dually diagnosed (having mental issues and addiction issues). If instead, the doctors blamed your “illness” on yourself and prescribed watching cartoons, and that was their liability, everyone in psychiatric hospitals would be watching cartoons, “or else”. When I read these blog postings I do my best to read them from my perspective as the personal experiences shared by each individual. I had this delusional idea that I could fight “it” (what I thought was initially depression) without “weapons,” because I had a paranoid fear of the medication. Main chemical problem is to much of dopamine released in the brain. There has been substantial research done on this product over the years beginning in the late 90’s at the U of C. Here is a very interesting talk form Dr. Kaplan about her research: It is lengthy but enlightening. Crazy is as Crazy does! also, i wouldn’t be so sure about there NOT being a conspiracy to keep us from healing from our mental illnesses. All my best to you, Chris. Cerene, calling people ignorant and foolish because they have found alternative treatments to help their bipolar symptoms is hateful and does everyone a disservice, including yourself. I think that our Western mind-set of how the world works is being challenged by our collective drive to evolve spiritually. The problem arises when we put our faith and focus on only one or two of these things that can sometimes impinge on the other. I am sure I am now addicted to the Seroquel as if I miss one dose I am super awake all night and then a wreck the next day, I event took a diazepam to sleep and it did nothing until the early hours when I was supposed to get up. Over the long term, I hope to reduce my meds somewhat but I likely will always be on something unless I’ve been stable for years and years and feel like rolling the dice. However, miracles are always possible. “Our results show the importance of childhood trauma, not only as a risk factor for bipolar disorders per se but also for a more severe clinical and dimensional profile of expression of the disorder,” author Monica Aas, PhD, from the University of Oslo, in Norway, told Medscape Medical News. Michelle I am here to say that there is just not one variant of this brain injury but many and that people like myself can do everything possible including a healthy lifestyle and meds and meditation and we are still very ill. New to your blog. My 16 year old is bipolar2. I can be no more for others I give what I can. A good doctor should direct you to this method before the use medication (when possible). My bipolar is relatively mild so I think these things will work for me. If your teen has bipolar disorder, there are a variety of means of treatment available. Just because you deny it doesn’t make it truth. She also told me to take Kali Phos tissue salts but i found they made me more nervous and she told me to take a probiotic. They can do nothing to fix the bipolar feelings, so the patient has to keep coming back and spending money. I know I need to stay on my meds! She’s on ssi disability so has medicaid and only send her to places that accept it. I feel like mentally I’m finally able to function but I’m slowly destroying my physical body. I use helpful quotes to remind me of what matters and what is true. i agree. Another major helper is sunlight…. For example you dont have bipolar, general anxiety disorder, and depression because all of those symptoms can be included in bipolar. I would rather take my meds than sit in jail cause I went off on someone, Or in the Hospital. Im scared because it is getting worse i get so angry then i cant sleep and a slew of other issues. That’s a success in my eyes. It takes 3-4 months at least for your brain chemistry to get back to normal. I don't know what type you have (I'm Bipolar I), so that might mean something different in terms of the option of being off of medications. I realize this information will not appeal to everyone. I can add to written above, to achieve better results on mood, my favorites are cold water swimming and workout with heart rate monitor for better interval training management. I always took on only casual work to allow me he flexibility to stay home if the depression came on again. Terri, I’m not sure if I’m allowed to give an email address but it’s [email protected] I truly hope you can get to a place where you are not struggling with the meds as much as you are now. I am currently working on my level 6 to gain a BA in Humanistic Integrative Counselling. I’m 48 and this is my third attempt at completing a degree (this will be familiar to those with bipolar who are experts at starting but not completing projects :-) ) Would you be interested taking part? (see the link about invalidation below). So, I agree completely with your observation that so much determines a diagnosis or misdiagnosis. I did try the Fish Oil for well over a year, not long ago. It is harder to process. I am happy and calm. After 2 attempted suicides, and worsening dreams, sleep paralysis, and my uncontrollable sleep schedule (I’d be up for days, then sleep for days). Posted Jun 23, 2012 Okay guys, let’s raise the level of discourse, please. I explained to the ones that saw me calm about the group things and they accepted me even more and even helped if someone new joined the group and started to get really really annoyed back. It just takes a lot of discipline to retrain your brain. I read more books than you will know and it took me years to sleep 8 hours and get my life back. As always, I wish you all wellness and all the good you’d wish for yourselves. It must be very frustrating when your psych tells you you’re being non-compliant just because you’re trying to improve the way you feel. It’s a chronic condition that requires long-term treatment and lifelong management. It’s true we can get by with a satisfactory life treating only one or two of these things but I am a strong believer if we make a balanced effort to treat all 3 of these things together we will get much more out of life. I can think clearly, and I feel healthy “,most of the day, nearly everyday” :) which is the opposite of what I was feeling before I started this wholistic psychological and lifestyle treatment. I’m diagnosed BP2, and was already on my current medication (mirtazapine) when that diagnosis was made; my previous diagnosis was of some form of unipolar depression (they varied what they called it, but there was generally a pattern of remission and relapse). I wrote a best selling book on Amazon called Med Free Bipolar going over step by step directions on how to thrive NATURALLY, and I have met thousands of people who are stable with bipolar without medication! ” in order for a great artist to create ones soul must suffer!”. I’m bipolar and meds free. It hasn’t been an easy journey and there have been highs and lows along the way, but I know many people on medication who still experience these. Do they treat mental disorders with it or not? I should care about my life, my relationships, my work…. Only way to do that is to fall in successful love with someone and he or she loves back. The medical world really doesn’t know what mental illnesses come from or know how to treat it correctly…the first thing they want to do is pump the patients with all these strange medications that at times only soothe the situation not help it. If i am in a crowd of people, i tend to pick up on what the mass feelings are(it is also why i dont like crowds of people in one place that dont go anywhere, if its crowds like malls or big events where they are always moving im fine, but groups not moving for hours. Also, [moderated] Zoloft and [moderated] of Neurontin once in the morning really helps me. A really ignorant comment. Everyone’s brain, behavior and needs are different so that’s why there is no one right med for everyone. As some people here have commented, I don’t agree that people who’ve received this diagnosis HAVE to take prescription medication for the rest of their life. eCPR is based on the principles found to be shared by a number of support approaches: trauma-informed care, counseling after disasters, peer support to avoid continuing emotional despair, emotional intelligence, suicide prevention, and cultural attunement. Among these, childhood trauma has been proposed as a likely environmental factor, Dr. Aas said. Like I secretly know something that doctors don’t. Stop looking for biological or genetic causes and you might figure out how they are behind your unhappiness. A comfortable, cool bedroom, free from electronic distraction is ideal. Let me say it again, because I don’t want to be indirectly responsible for a death. Sandy. I guess I’d say that for people who prefer “supplements” for some kind of moral or philosophical reason, there’s no reason not to try lithium–under a doctor’s supervision, with their blood levels checked, so they get the results but don’t poison themselves. This is not the forum for that. What is helping me right now is a small dose of seroquel for sleep, lithium 450mg which I have just started, quitting smoking and cutting down caffeine, CLEAN eating and a lot of time out in the sun + exercise! That is why some people continue to take it. On his days off he gets very moody and depressed. However, I might be keener to try to cut them out as much as possible (with stabilisers) if I didn’t have a caring partner who keeps an eye on me and stops me getting in too much trouble. I hope that helps explain. what hurts me the most especially being his mother, its like he knows something is wrong but scared to mention or talk because he feels like an odd ball.. Don’t know about your Lithium question. That can easily be marketing people. Have you any idea how many years I have gone from manic to full on depression and back and forth every day? Set your room up for sleep. Unfortunately, we can only manage the symptoms there is no way to beat it that I’m aware of. It has been about 2 1/2 years since any outbreaks but she has been on Seraquil, however this summer 2015 she has stopped taking her medication all together:( It has been 2 months and she was been okay for the most part, but I worry so much, she talkes about traveling and I fear without medication she might be lost:( She no longer wants to see her dr.’s and says she feels fine, and again she has been stable but it only has been 2 months and a few time she will get up late in the night random and wash her face at 3 am:/ Not sure what I should do as I can not force her to take medication, nor do I want her hard work to go undone:( Any suggestions? You begin your diatribe with an unabashed accusation. I have been on lithium and dopaquel for 8 weeks now, it has made me feel so ill so I am trying to taper myself off. I believe the mechanism for the success of omega-3 is through its ability to allow the body to maintain a higher blood level of calcium. I was on meds for Bipolar for 7 years. Hi I read your post about Lithium Oratate.. The reason I thought it odd, was because I now had enough knowledge about psychology and bipolar disorder to know, that a misdiagnosis of depression and prescription of certain antidepressants (I was prescribed tricyclics) when someone has bipolar disorder, can trigger rapid cycling and increase risk of suicide. Obsessed? Your feelings are a signal that something is wrong, they are telling you to check out whatever it is that is wrong and try to fight it. I still see a therapist and have taken DBT therapy a couple times, which I think is the only reason I can be off meds. Thank you. Bipolar for 11 yrs.. Lithium and Risperdal for 4-5 yrs. After my first manic episode I dabbled in astrology and numerously a fair amount, I believed everything was divinely worked out as a plan, and life was a puzzle that I needed to figure out and follow the signs, as if I was on some sort of spiritual journey. If you don’t take effective medications prescribed by a competent physician your just messed up. Here is a link to check it out if you’ve never heard of it : I’m super stoked to start! When I have the early signs of lowered feelings, I use effective self expression, I self examine what is the trigger causing these feelings? Its the most important meal of the day! Medication just creates a false sense of well being by changing you conscious mind temporarily – but then you’ll come down, and your subconscious mind hasn’t learnt anything, in fact all it has learnt is you are sick and you need medication to feel happy. Unfortunately, the dose that helps and the dose that kills are close together and within the realm of individual difference, so they had to go off the “do it yourself.” However, there are areas of the country with higher levels of natural lithium in the water than others. That’s who they are. I’ve also been diagnosed with other mental illnesses/disorders, by another several MH pros. and since were on the subject of your brain: it is an AMAZING organ. I can go on and on. All asparagus all the time… Totally cures bipolar disorder but your house will stink so bad you’ll end up living in the bushes and they will eventually haul you off to the hospital…. That being said, the odd person (I’ve met exactly one) can get stabilized and stay that way even without the aid of medication. I’m not sure if I’m allowed to give an email address but it’s [email protected] Its normal, that its hard to get sleep about an hour again. Here are some steps to take: 1. Another “alternative” therapy for mania that (last I read) had some support (sorry I can’t source this right now) is dark therapy. At first try get off of meds it was 7 days totally awake when I came back to drugs. I often wonder, when I have a therapist that insists I must be “fully” medicated.). It takes a really long time to do it this way, but at least the change is permanent. Both agree that they would never know that I have bipolar disorder anymore, except for when I divert from my combination of therapies or neglect myself by eating badly, allowing myself to become stressed and not exercising daily. I have 3 monthly blood tests and have been toxic a couple of times. How I Cured My Bipolar Disorder I guess its hard because all diagnoses of bipolar I read about are based on symptoms of abnormal behaviour, but the question is what is abnormal what is normal and who gets to decide. psychotherapy treating bipolar alone? @Tabby — Wow. HELP! 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